Brighton has the only Green MP in the country and that’s always felt nice. But is this time different? Did we vote for Party or person? Sian Berry tells Jed Novick the name has changed but the message is the same
We’re sitting in the Green Party HQ just by the station. There’s more people than spaces and where there aren’t people there are cardboard boxes, all spilling leaflets everywhere. Everyone smiles, says “Hello”, asks how I am.
“Hi Jed, do you want a drink?” says Matt, the man makes all this work. He gives me a glass of water, which suddenly feels a bit awkward because there’s nowhere to put the glass down. The atmosphere is vibrant, chaotic but exciting. It feels like a changing room just before the Cup Final. You can feel the positivity, the energy, there’s also a nervousness that comes partly from being the favourites but, to continue the already tenuous football analogy, the star striker who’s scored the goals that’s got them here has left. There’s a new striker, but… Can she do it?
The shadow of Caroline Lucas hangs heavy. It’s not a surprise. The Green Party and Caroline have been synonymous for as long as anyone can remember. She’s been the Green MP, the Green face. She’s one of the most recognisable faces in British politics, one of the few politicians that transcend politics. She grew a marginal with a 1,252 majority in 2010 to a 20,000 majority. And now she’s gone.
That must be a strange feeling, taking over from someone who’s an icon, a celebrity.
“And she’s loved and rightly so. She’s my mentor as well. She’s always encouraged me throughout my career.” says Sian Berry, Caroline’s successor. “And yeah, everyone is sorry to see her go, absolutely. I’m not thinking that I’m inheriting anything. I’m working for every single vote. I’m trying to meet as many people so they know me and they will vote for me. But what I’m finding is that people are sorry to see her go, but would be even sorrier to see her go and lose their Green voice. So people are very, very willing to back me, even though I’m newer to them than Caroline and remember Caroline was new to them once. She’s become this icon over 14 years.”
Sian talks like the Green office feels. Excited and full of “let’s go” energy. She doesn’t so much talk as watch as words cascade out of her mouth. So yes, excited and full of energy, but also ready. She’s been embedded in activist politics since the early 2000s, which is where she came on Caroline’s radar.
“I’d been running a campaign, the Alliance against Urban Four by Fours. We campaigned outside the vegan shoe shop in the North Laine and did a stall where we were giving out these fake parking tickets which looked like Brighton Hove parking tickets, but said words like dirty and dangerous, and instead of a penalty charge notice, they would say poor vehicle choice, and then it would give information.”
Were you those people who went around letting people’s tyres down?
“Oh, the tyre people. No, that’s not legal, whereas sticking a fake parking ticket under someone’s windscreen is actually legal, and it started a really useful debate in the media. We also had big policy asks, so we wanted the government to change things like vehicle tax, so that if you bought a bigger or heavier vehicle or a more polluting vehicle, you would pay more. And Gordon Brown did do that.”
Sian’s background was in marketing as a medical writer and so knew how to tell a story, “but it was all paid for by big pharmaceutical companies, so I had to stop doing that” and after the 4×4 campaign found herself campaign coordinator for the Greens. She’s stood for Parliament before – “as a Green, you’re often asked to stand in unwinnable places, just to get the point across” – the first time she was up against Glenda Jackson, the last time was in 2017 against, of all people, Keir Starmer.
Say you get elected. Can you do much as one Green MP? Caroline’s personal fame allowed her a level of attention, but… Not for the first time I feel Sian getting a little bored with the Caroline comparisons. And fair enough.
“I’m really looking forward to getting the Green voice out, onto the national agenda. We deserve much more time debating with the other parties in the spotlight, because we have a legitimate point of view, and lots of people support it, and it ought to be heard.”
You could be the new voice of Question Time.
“We deserve so many more slots on Question Time. I think if you add up every appearance a Green has ever made…”
You could change your name to Nigel. They’d never stop asking you.
What specifically for the good folk of Brighton Pavilion, does Sian offer? “I aim to be the best MP I can possibly be, and use Caroline’s work as an absolute model for that. I know how much from talking to people on the doorstep, I know how much they appreciate the excellent constituency work she’s done, the excellent casework. I’ve represented people for a long time, and that combination of listening to people’s problems and helping people overcome the system if they’re having trouble with bureaucracy, if they’ve been treated unfairly, and you can help unlock the path to putting in a complaint and getting it fixed.
“The other job is to be a voice for the city and its concerns and values. I very much want to make the case for water companies to be brought into public hands, and you can see the other parties taking steps along the way now, because the water companies are just getting worse and worse. and it’s so much clearer that bringing them under the way of you know, hopefully a regional democratic control would be, would be absolutely brilliant, and we absolutely have to argue for that.
I’ve worked for years for a national charity campaigning for better transport. I love public transport. Let’s sort out the buses. Let’s get the trains working. You know, I have knowledge and how to influence that, and then housing, buying, not just building more council homes.”
Sian tells me about various schemes she’s worked on, from grants to upgrade their boilers, to councils buying houses and turning them into council houses. Real ideas that can make a real difference, and a little bit more positive than the incessant “We’ll cut taxes” rhetoric we’re hearing from the big parties.
Away from all this, what do you do when you’re not here?
“I’m been gardening a hell of a lot. It’s so nice. Honestly, we got a good garden. I’ve got a lovely patch that there’s previously been a fruit garden and looked after pretty organically. So I’m sticking I’m trying to grow as much food as possible, basically. During this period, the weeds are definitely going to have a bonanza and the slugs. But it’s, it’s, it’s so nice to at the end of the day, to just hang out there. And you know, it’s fantastic, isn’t it?
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